Curse

chris_nin00 · Jan 18, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55

All I want are 2 slots...
Just 2! Give me 2 slots or I'll quit!

Oh, the debacle is over?

Ok nevermind. I'm fine. 1 slot is fine for me.

It's undecided?

Ok then undecided slots are fine with me.

Gildor Took · Jan 18, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

well the character slots be added to your exsisting account or will it be like a second account?

chippxero · Jan 18, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Personally ill be happy with any extra slot or slots ideally 2 but 1 is fine.

chris_nin00 · Jan 18, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Gildor Took

well the character slots be added to your exsisting account or will it be like a second account?

That's your choice

.

Most people here want the slots to be added to their existing account.
I myself want 2.

Stand alone accounts get 4 right?

Banebow · Jan 18, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

If they gave a starting account four character slots, and then added one per additional chapter added, well, I'd be happy. I am not even fully using all my slots right now, because I really have no wish to go through the game for a 6th or 7th time. I am happy to continue earning gold and experience on my mesmer, rather than taking another character through the game.

By giving one more slot per additional chapter, they provide players with plenty of slots, enough that you cannot be using all of them often enough to demand another slot, at least once, say, chapter four comes out. (that would add up to 7 total slots, for those of you bad at math

) Yes, by that point there would be twelve classes, but you will never convince me that you could play 12 different characters regularly enough to warrent having them all and still be able to pay for your internet connection.

If ArenaNet gives me one slot, I will be a happy man. If they decide to give me two, I will be happy. If they say "screw em all, you'll never have more than four" I will continue playing with only mild disappointment. Yes, I have deleted characters to make room for others, some of them with 15k armor. If you want to try out all the classes, then think ahead. Don't buy 15k armor for every character you make, don't spend money on those gold weapons. Try the character, and make a decision. Either you like the play style or you don't. If you don't, delete him/her and make a new character. If you do, then save the character and make another one in a different slot. If you are on your fourth slot, use PvP characters to test if you like the class. If you hate PvP, well, one can tell fairly quickly if the play style fits them, sometimes before you leave pre searing.

(note: this is not directed at anyone in particular, just my thoughts from what I have experienced playing the game)

And, of course, there is always a second account.

Kula · Jan 18, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by ghostlyranger

i only want bigger stash or bag, so i can delete my "packmule" character,

It's sad but true, I also resorted to turning one of my characters into a mule. Therefore I only really have 3 slots to play with :x

Either give us two more slots or give us one slot AND increase our character storage by 200%, pretty please.

Deathqueen · Jan 18, 2006, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_nin00

All I want are 2 slots...
Just 2! Give me 2 slots or I'll quit!

Oh, the debacle is over?

Ok nevermind. I'm fine. 1 slot is fine for me.

It's undecided?

Ok then undecided slots are fine with me.

LOL ROFLMAO Yes they are a FICKLE bunch aren't they? The diehard and addicted will buy it no matter what; no matter what they post here.

Only the really dedicated to the cause will not buy it and stand their ground which will probably just be a handful or a drop in a bucket. Even I will buy it eventually, but, I will stick to my principles of waiting it out for bargain bin prices, it's not like anyone is going to get ahead of me since Anet gives everything to you, all you have to do is RUN through the content and you can have everything within a day or two. And since there's still a level 20 level cap I don't have to worry about leveling up. Just pay someone to get me to the NPC where I can buy all my skills, so simple, so easy and save about $45. I already have so much ingame money I have nothing to spend it on anyway because weapon stats never change and armor stats never change, the equipment I have now will be just as good a year from now as it is right now why waste $45?

Jaythen Tyradel · Jan 18, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by chris_nin00

That's your choice

.

Most people here want the slots to be added to their existing account.
I myself want 2.

Stand alone accounts get 4 right?

That would the easiest to surmise.
The potential problem though, is that since it is not tied to your previous account, you have to unlock the chapter 1 skills/runes/weapon upgrades all over again. If one were to use the chapter 2 key in connection with chapter one, they would have all access to what they previously worked for.
As of right now, if one were to guess (for that is what we could only do), it would be choosing either 2 seperate accounts with 4 slots each (but no connection on shared unlocks) or 1 account with X(amount still undetermined) slots total with previous unlocks available.

Loviatar · Jan 18, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

That would the easiest to surmise.
The potential problem though, is that since it is not tied to your previous account, you have to unlock the chapter 1 skills/runes/weapon upgrades all over again. .

the place where i got this may be wrong but they said that chapter 1 core professions would be provided with a *core* set of skills that you could not simply turn into a fully skilled chapter 1 character in chapter 2. (sort of like a pvE premade maybe?) we will find out

this makes a lot of sence because if i can go all the way back to chapter 1 for everything i will simply have a runner do the rounds for me picking up everything and then go on to chapter 2 content with 4 slots extra and lose nothing instead of 1/2

they have to have an incentive to get chapter 2

remember you can run 2 accounts on 1 pc at the same time as well to swap gold/loot or even run yourself

Jaythen Tyradel · Jan 18, 2006, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

the place where i got this may be wrong but they said that chapter 1 core professions would be provided with a *core* set of skills that you could not simply turn into a fully skilled chapter 1 character in chapter 2. (sort of like a pvE premade maybe?) we will find out

this makes a lot of sence because if i can go all the way back to chapter 1 for everything i will simply have a runner do the rounds for me picking up everything and then go on to chapter 2 content with 4 slots extra and lose nothing instead of 1/2

they have to have an incentive to get chapter 2

remember you can run 2 accounts on 1 pc at the same time as well to swap gold/loot or even run yourself

I should have been more clear. Yes, they will have a the core skills to obtain in chapter 2. I was talking about what was previously unlocked on chapter 1. The way it sounds, the player will have to recollect everything to have it unlocked for chapter 2 PVP/PVE if they keep it standalone.
But your point about running 2 accounts at the same time may work nicely for item/gold swapping.

Loviatar · Jan 18, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

I The way it sounds, the player will have to recollect everything to have it unlocked for chapter 2 PVP/PVE if they keep it standalone.
But your point about running 2 accounts at the same time may work nicely for item/gold swapping.

if i can go back for everything i want i will certainly get it as a standalone for the extra slots.

if the skill set is locked i will see if it is what i want and see if the new skills for that profession are chapter 1 available or only chapter 2 available.

i think chapter 1 available to help keep interest going for ones who dont get chapter 2

the only thing i am sure of is we will find out eventually

Katari · Jan 18, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Again, in response to all the people saying "4 slots is enough even for PvE", Sure, you're forced to make choices. The problem is, lets say you have 4 level 20 chars, and you want (Ok, maybe 'want' is the wrong word there) to delete one, in favor of another primary. Great, so you pick the one you like the least, and then what? Test out the new primary, and bring back your old char if you don't like the new one better? I wish.

Despite all the DF running and whatnot, it still takes time to get a char to level 20, longer if you don't get run, and still longer if you want more than the basic skills. I don't like the idea that you should avoid caring about a char, avoid getting skills, 15k armor, superior runes, etc just on the offchance you might delete it.

I'm looking forward to the day where a conversation like this can't happen
"Any guildmates have a monk they can bring to Hell's Precipace?"
"Nope, sorry, I deleted my monk to make a ranger, and don't have any more slots."

Make choices? Meh, thats great for a game where a zerg-fest can work, but GW requires at least some basic teamwork. I for one don't like being limited by what primarys I picked, when two more char slots would make it a non-issue.

I love the flexability offered in the form of atribute points, skills, and secondary classes. I don't get why we don't have the same flexability when it comes to primary classes.

JediKnight · Jan 20, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Why is everyone kicking off about how many slots we get in the new chapter? By my reckoning we would need 56 slots to fit in all combinations for all professions (8 primary x 7 secondary). So therefore by only allowing us 5 slots in chp 2 they are encouraging player freedom of choice.

If I had no free slots do I delete my lvl 20 W/E and start anew as a W/Mes. Just how different would the game be?

Quote "You can't please all of the people all of the time".

Valdaran Longfoot · Jan 20, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Having more slots is the only thing I don't like about the game (and I mean ONLY). However asking for 4 new slots is a waste............

Having 4 characters, and characters that can swich professions and swich magics quickly, and still being bored means maybe you should find a different game............

Adding 1-2 slots will be good enough. Keep your PvE chars and still have a room for an Assassin/Ritualist PvE and then a PvP w/ 2 new slots.

Really out of ideas? Swich your secondary profession and unlock skills for him/her.

Rok · Jan 24, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by JediKnight

Why is everyone kicking off about how many slots we get in the new chapter? By my reckoning we would need 56 slots to fit in all combinations for all professions (8 primary x 7 secondary). So therefore by only allowing us 5 slots in chp 2 they are encouraging player freedom of choice.

If I had no free slots do I delete my lvl 20 W/E and start anew as a W/Mes. Just how different would the game be?

Quote "You can't please all of the people all of the time".

No. You would only need 8 slots, one for each primary. You can change your secondary to whatever you want and then buy the skills.

From what I can tell so far, the only thing you won't get with ch 2 are the elite skills for the core classes from ch 1.

And just think, those with only ch 2 get only 4 slots with 8 classes to choose from.

Katari · Jan 24, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Valdaran Longfoot

Having more slots is the only thing I don't like about the game (and I mean ONLY). However asking for 4 new slots is a waste............

Having 4 characters, and characters that can swich professions and swich magics quickly, and still being bored means maybe you should find a different game............

Adding 1-2 slots will be good enough. Keep your PvE chars and still have a room for an Assassin/Ritualist PvE and then a PvP w/ 2 new slots.

Really out of ideas? Swich your secondary profession and unlock skills for him/her.

Bored? No, I'm not bored, I just like to keep my options open. Secondary classes I never use to a great extent, and theres no reason for me to go unlock warrior attacks on my ele.

Really out of ideas? Swap Secondarys? Sure, thats exactly what I need to do to get my Warrior to function exactly like the ranger I can't have because I'm out of slots. Oh, crap, no.

Adding 1-2 slots is only fine if you enjoy being limited. What class don't you have? Have you ever wanted to try playing that class in endgame PvE? What if you enjoyed the game enough that you liked every primary to some extent?

Yes, it looks like people with just C2 would have the same problem, but why shouldn't they?

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So therefore by only allowing us 5 slots in chp 2 they are encouraging player freedom of choice.

No, thats not 'freedom', they're forcing you to choose.

As far as secondarys go, thats not the issue at all. Theres a perfectly fine ingame feature that lets you change secondarys. The problem is that primarys, regardless of the secondary are unique. The playstyle of each primary is very unique. With no way of changing primarys ingame, you're forced to make a new char. The real problem is that you run out of slots before you run out of primarys to try, and many people don't like deleting chars.

How varied would the game be with more slots? Well, more varied I would argue. Many people feel compeled to have at least a monk, and often a warrior, and now a necro as well, as they become more popular in farming. Now that leaves them one slot to fill with a ranger, ele, or mesmer, and for first, the mesmer is out. I wouldn't be suprised if we saw some more mesmers floating around if we currently had 6 slots.

I think 1 slot has long been out of the question. Now the question is, will they keep up the silly 'if its good enough for pvp unlocks...' philsophy, and only add 2 slots. Or if they'll add enough slots for PvE, since PvE players are the ones who would be more likely to use the slots. (as well as being unhappy that they're lacking enough slots, which I am)

JiggyFly · Jan 24, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

One more slot doesn't bother me, because if I have to buy a second account so be it, although I don't much like the idea of having to buy 2 expansions if I get a second account.

Although it does seem a bit dishonest to me because 2 accounts + 2 expansions, actually come out to costing more than if Guild Wars had a monthly fee. (All the MMORPGs I have ever played with monthly fees had enough slots for every character type)...but from a buisiness standpoint I would probably do the exact same thing so I guess I'm just being hypocritical.

Vnewbie · Jan 24, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Actually, its sorta logical to only put in one extra slot. Our current status is 4 slots, or...

3 slots to cover for being able to do all the current classes, primary or secondary.

1 for a random character.

Adding one more will automatically cover for the Sin (assassin) and Rit (ritualist) characters.

Besides, be happy you don't have to pay monthly fees. Compare $50 for GW to around $200/yr for WoW. 10 yrs down the road: WoW cost: $2000, GW cost: still $50.

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jan 24, 2006, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Vnewbie is right. No monthly fees and there's only 8 professions people! One slot is enough by me. I believe they should add one slot with every expansion to compensate the two new professions they added. If you want more char slots then what is given at the time, just buy another account. It's how it goes, business people. I make do with the char slots they give me so I don't see any reason why people should go asking Anet for more than it offers.

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jan 24, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by Katari

I think 1 slot has long been out of the question. Now the question is, will they keep up the silly 'if its good enough for pvp unlocks...' philsophy, and only add 2 slots. Or if they'll add enough slots for PvE, since PvE players are the ones who would be more likely to use the slots. (as well as being unhappy that they're lacking enough slots, which I am)

Now that is true and your point on more mesmers floating around is a good point. But it all comes down to making decisions. Make do with what you have. "Delete this char and make another one or keep it since it's my only tank?" Decisions.............